If you were not at study last night (10/19), we had an awesome discussion about Ephesians 2:1-10 and whether we play any role at all in our salvation…

Ephesians 2:1-10 tells us about what our condition was like before
Christ died for us. The Bible says we were DEAD, unable to do anything for
ourselves to merit salvation, including the action of responding to God’s call
for salvation. Then it tells us God came and by His grace alone we were given
the gift of faith and life to be saved. Ephesians 2:8 sums up these verses
well. I know that I now have life thanks to Christ and His work on the cross. I
would not have been able to have life if it were not the sole action of God
saving me.

This brought up a great discussion in the group about
predestination and election that really sparked a lot of emotion and confusion
in some people. I hope that those people continue to wrestle with the fact that
they have been chosen to serve God for the purpose of living out His kingdom here
on earth before He returns and that they do not know who or when people will be
saved and we are called to trust in God’s choices, whether we like them or not,
and we are called to share and love everyone.

I was also reminded of an article that, i think did a good job,
explained where the Theology of predestination and election came from and its
history. The article was written by Pastor Mark Driscoll, Head Pastor at Mars Hill
Church in Seattle, WA. I hope that if those people find this blog and decide to
read it that they do their due diligence and not give up on the article just
because the lengthy words it uses or the history and background it does or all
of the “–isms” it uses. I think if one reads it from beginning to end, it would
be hard to argue against predestination and election from a biblical stand


Post in the section below after reading it with any thoughts you
have on the topic…



Wow, what an awesome dicussion last night…

2 thoughts on “Wow, what an awesome dicussion last night…

  • October 22, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Tim Keller also has a sermon that does a great job of explaining how we make decisions at the same time that He is sovereignty working with His election. Titled: Does God Control Everything? and can be found on Tim Keller’s Church Redeemer Presbyterian itunes podcast.

    I saw that article on Pastor Mark’s blog and have been wanting to read it when I get a chance to sit down and go through the whole thing…thanks for the reminder.

  • October 21, 2011 at 12:03 am

    As I have said in the past I’m not a huge Driscoll fan but I will say he really nails it hear. He list all the major verse I would of and relies heavy on Erkison work (very wise) and lays out the options fairly and allows the scripture to speak for itself -I LOVE HIS quote at the end about his convictions being his “home” and not a “prison”! Most of I appreciated his gracious tone!


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