I was in Raley’s this morning.  As I walked in, I smelled the “Soup of the Day” as it was being put out.  Raley’s is an amazing place.  I took in the view as I was in line to get my morning coffee.  There is a Deli that makes pretty good sandwiches.  Several choices of hot soup.  A full bakery.  Fresh desserts.  An overwhelming assortment of cheese (several that I can’t pronounce the names of).  Think about it, pretty much whatever you want from motor oil to mushrooms and EVERYTHING in between… you can find it at Raley’s.

It’s really convenient.  I don’t have to go kill a cow to get a steak.  I don’t have to farm to get carrots.  Someone else does all that hard stuff and I get the benefit of it.   

I’ve found that sometimes people like all the activities that the church has to offer.  It provides a nursery for crying babies (even changes dirty dippers for you), Children & Jr./Sr. High ministries, College/20Somthings (wink, wink), Mens and Women’s Ministries and host of other opportunities.  But what happens when we discover that unlike Raley’s, where very little is actually needed to benefit from the stuff someone else has stocked the store with for you to enjoy, the life of a Christian demands more than just what the Church offers.  The real work and fruit that comes from the Christian life demands your own cultivation.  Are you farming?

We all enjoy the work others do for us that make our lives easier.  But what if the Christian life is more about contributing to others than it is about consuming what others do for you?  I read a very good article from a pastor who gave 5 reason why people leave the church.  Addressing the need for us to labor not just consume, he says, “your primary call in the church is to contribute, not just consume.”

Here is the article.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on it.  Do you agree of disagree with his ideas?


5 Really Bad Reasons To Leave Your Church -by Aaron Loy

Aaron is a husband, dad, church planter, coffee addict, insatiable learner and chronic dreamer.

                    There are good reasons to change churches, but there are a lot more bad reasons.

Let’s be honest, while there are some good reasons for leaving a church, there are a lot more bad ones. As a pastor, I hear some of them every now and then as people walk out the door. As a church planter, I hear them constantly as people walk in the door.

If you’re thinking about looking for a new church home, please don’t use one of these five reasons to make the jump:

1. “I’m not being fed”

Do pastors have a responsibility to steward the scriptures and care for their church spiritually? You bet they do. And it can be all too easy to overlook this while trying to manage staff, build systems, meet needs, put out fires and develop leaders, all while overseeing the overall vision and direction of the church. But let’s be honest, if you own a smartphone, a personal computer or a library card, you have access to some of the best preaching and teaching in the world. You can even find teaching archives of some of the greatest preachers of all time. Christian, you have access to more “meat” than any other generation before you!


To leave a church because you’re not getting “enough” is a cop out. Your primary call in the church is to contribute, not just to consume. As a Christian, you shouldn’t require spoon-feeding for the rest of your life. Eventually you need to learn how to feed yourself so that, in time, you can actually feed others. Remember, your call is not just to be a disciple but to make disciples. 

2. “It’s getting too big”

I can appreciate the sense of loss that accompanies growth. When we first began, our church was little more than a small band of brothers and sisters meeting together in a living room. It feels very different now that we are a church of a few hundred people spread across multiple services. There are moments when I miss the intimacy and simplicity of those early days. But remaining small is a sad and unbiblical goal.

When churches are faithful to the Great Commission, lives will be changed and people will be added to their number. It may not happen rapidly, but growth is sometimes inevitable for faithful churches, given a long enough timeline. If you have a problem with big churches, you really wouldn’t have liked the first church, and you definitely won’t like heaven.

3. “I don’t agree with everything that is being preached”

You know what? Neither do I and I’m the pastor. As such I fully reserve the right to disagree with myself. And every now and then I do exactly that. Why? Because I’m learning. I’m growing. I’m asking questions. And my hope is that those I pastor are doing likewise.


If you insist that your pastor agree with you on every little thing under the sun, you are going to either hop from church to church for the rest of your life in perpetual disappointment or you will eventually give up and drop out altogether. Chances are you are not going to agree with everything that is preached anywhere. As long as your pastor isn’t preaching outright heresy, you can afford to disagree on secondary issues.The truth is when you choose to stay despite disagreeing on some things, you, your pastor and your church are better for it. 

4. “My Needs Aren’t Being Met”

When someone lists this as a reason for leaving it is a dead giveaway that somewhere along the way they came to believe that the Church actually exists to serve their needs. They’ve bought into the lie that, when it comes to church, it’s really about “me.” Here’s the problem: the Church actually isn’t about you. It’s about Jesus. It’s his Church. He came for it. He died for it. He redeemed it. He continues to build it. And one day, he’ll come back for it. It’s his.


This is the same Jesus who came to seek and to save the lost and then commissioned his Church to go and do the same. The Church doesn’t exist to meet your needs. You are a part of the Church that exists to meet the needs of the world. Put away the shopping cart and pick up a shovel. 

5. Unresolved Conflict

Wherever you find the community of sinning saints you will find conflict. Lots of it. The Church is one big family full of characters and misfits. Sometimes sisters argue. Sometimes brothers fight. Sometimes you want to bury your weird uncle in the backyard. But despite it all, family is supposed to be the place where you stick together. Even when it’s hard. Especially when it’s hard.

Paul addressed a lot of church conflict in his letters. No where do I hear him encouraging believers to bail on one another or move on down the road to a different church where it’ll be easier. Instead, much of his letters are his encouraging and coaching these ragamuffin communities in how to do this very hard and messy thing together.

When we leave at first sign of real conflict, it shortchanges God’s best work in our midst. It sidesteps the process of repentance, forgiveness and grace. It negates the power of the Gospel to bring reconciliation where reconciliation might seem impossible. We and those around us miss out on all of it when we just leave.

I do know that not all conflict is resolvable. I know that reconciliation is impossible where there is no repentance. I get that. But remember, repentance starts with us. And so does the extending of grace. And when we resolve to stick around and keep on repenting and extending grace, I think God can do far more than we often give Him credit for. Some of God’s best work happens in the mess.


Are you a farmer?

2 thoughts on “Are you a farmer?

  • February 2, 2014 at 7:28 am

    Josh- I think you’re right… does have the making of a sermon! I may have to have you preach it too!!! – Noah

  • February 1, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    I definitly agree with this noah. This topic has the makings of a Powerfully convicting sermon. One that helps people (especially me) redifne the purpose of even participating in church. Not for ourselves, but because we were “bought with a price”. We can speculate where this problem stems from whether that be cultural perceptions or our own deep rooted selfishness, but we know that the solution can only come from one source. I believe that a well prayed and thought out fire and brimstone sort of sermon would be a great place to start!


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